Topic: Counterbalanced crankshafts

No problems with existing motor, but...

Thinking of building a second motor to play with and have been looking at cranks.
Stock is high quality, but no counterweights is a handicap for RPM's.
So, been looking at other options like the SCAT 4340 Chromoly Pro Street. However they also have a flanged 4340 crank that requires a type 4 center bearing journal. Is that something that could be changed on a type one case, or would I have to convert a type 4 to upright? I'm fine with an 8 dowel crank though, so if it's a lot of extra work just to use the flanged crank, then I won't bother.

And, are there any old SPG roller cranks out there for sale?

Paul

Re: Counterbalanced crankshafts

Hiya Paul,

Hmmmmmm............I don't think that one has to get too exotic if considering a counterweighted crank.  I have a friend who recently built an engine for his Bus.  Although the engine is in a stock configuration he did use a counterweighted crank from CBPerformance.  It was simply a bolt-in kind of affair.  Used the regular bearings.

But perhaps I'm misreading.  Are you considering building a real fire-breather?

Mike

1970 AS Bug
1970 Bus - The Ruptured Duck

Re: Counterbalanced crankshafts

Altema wrote:

And, are there any old SPG roller cranks out there for sale?

Paul

Are you going to have any money left after power-coating your pans? wink

- Nick

1979 Super Beetle Convertible

Re: Counterbalanced crankshafts

Bug In My Nose wrote:
Altema wrote:

And, are there any old SPG roller cranks out there for sale?

Paul

Are you going to have any money left after power-coating your pans? wink

- Nick

No...    lol


Paul

Re: Counterbalanced crankshafts

Bookwus wrote:

Hiya Paul,

Hmmmmmm............I don't think that one has to get too exotic if considering a counterweighted crank.  I have a friend who recently built an engine for his Bus.  Although the engine is in a stock configuration he did use a counterweighted crank from CBPerformance.  It was simply a bolt-in kind of affair.  Used the regular bearings.

But perhaps I'm misreading.  Are you considering building a real fire-breather?

This will be the first air cooled I've built, so I'm aiming for a mid to upper range street engine. Now that I've thought about it, the 4340 pro street with the normal flywheel flange should be about right. Main reason for wanting a counterweighted crank is because I like freeway driving, but it pains me to think of crank flex hammering the main journals. It would be nice to sail along at 75 knowing that everything is in balance and spinning happily, and that sustained cruising speeds will not unduly shorten engine life.

In regards to a fire-breather, probably not the first engine. I usually have wonderful first-time success though. My first car I rebuilt using the engine from my mother's wrecked Plymouth, and it was undefeated for almost two years on the street. When I got my driver's license back, we took it to Milan Dragway and it came home with the winner's check on the first visit. The car was retired after the 1983 Grand Nationals at Detroit Dragway. There was not much to muck around with, performance-wise, after getting married. When we did get my current daily driver, I was told that there was nothing that could be done to get more power out of it, even by multi-million dollar speed equipment companies. But I went ahead and did it anyway. The result is a nicely equipped daily driver, which also happens to be the fastest one of it's type in the world on the dragstrip, despite being intended for road course racing.

Sooo, if and when I do go the fire-breathing route, it should be a fun ride :;):


Paul

Re: Counterbalanced crankshafts

Oh, by the way, I doubt I'd find an SPG roller crank in very good condition, but they did seem to go on almost forever with huge gains in RPM capability. I know that some have said they have to be babied, but... did you know that the first 4 cylinder car in the world to break the 11 second barrier in the quarter mile was a bug, with an SPG crank? I know it was tig welded, but 350 air-cooled horses and high-RPM clutch dumps is a lot of stress!

Paul

Re: Counterbalanced crankshafts

Bug In My Nose wrote:

..... after power-coating your pans?

The process is called Powder Coating.