Topic: Trivial Indeed.........

Hiya All,

Since Sean wanted more questions here's one.............

The bolts which fasten the rear decklid to the hinges are peculiar in one respect.  Two of them are painted the body color and two of them are painted red.  I've seen this in other VWs other than mine.  Why are these two bolts (on opposite sides)  painted red?

Mike

1970 AS Bug
1970 Bus - The Ruptured Duck

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I've never noticed this and if I had, chalked it up to someone using parts from another car during repair. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled

-Darby

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Hiya Darby,

You know, at first I thought that was exactly what was going on.  Then I looked at the red.  It does not appear to be a VW exterior color.  Rather it appears to be universal warning red.  And the two red bolt heads are painted exactly as the bolt heads with the exterior color (in my case L620 Savanna Beige).  To top it off, I have noticed this same phenomena in two other Bugs.

Not exactly an earthshaking problem by any means.  But I am curious.

Mike

1970 AS Bug
1970 Bus - The Ruptured Duck

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My guess is the lawyers decided the spring could pop off and cause injury, so coded a bolt on each side as a warning when removing the lid. Now how anyone would see that as a warning... maybe you have to be German.

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They're all the same color on my car. Course my car is red though. lol

jim

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I wonder if they are painted red completely or have a blob of red on the head maybe an inspectors signature?

The only think I've seen that is similar to this is on the Mexican beetles. After they come down the line and are done, someone takes the time to touch up screws. There are small unnoticable (except to me) dabs on the gas door screws where the threads stick thru, hood bolts, and one or two door screws. It impressed me that someone took the time.

Last edited by DrDarby (2009-04-24 05:58:49)

-Darby

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Nah more likely here is that the 8.8 bolt was bought from Napa they have red and Blue .
  But when removeing the Hinge bracket's be aware that the back bolt <<< Dont strip it , fold , spindle or Mutilate $$$$$
  Another tip here on Deck Lidd Hinges is that they strip out !
Quick repair here is to lay the Hinge bolt hole over a flat anvil and lightly pound it flat again !
  Then Re- tapp with a Tapp or if you dont have a Tapp you can use a self tapping engine tinn screw !
  Work's Great !
  Even hitt one with a Torch then Hosed off to Re- Harden the Thread's on one !
    Just like New ! Then Add a 10 .8 Better than New !
                                                                       Sean

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Hiya All,

FWIW, since I have the rear decklid off for a while, here's a picture of said bolts................

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/Bookwus1/Bug/IMG_1523.jpg

Mike

1970 AS Bug
1970 Bus - The Ruptured Duck

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Just 2 different car's ! Wire brush them or replace with 10.8 << Lil more tensile strenght in the thread's !
  Smash thread's back flat on the hinge ! Tapp thread's with Engine tinn tapp it's the painted blue one in my top Drawer ?
  6mm x 100 Drill 13/64 Tapp << think this is the one cost is like 7 buck's every Bugg owner need's this tapp ! Engine Tinn , etc .
  But dont un-nessessarily tap the hinge thread's ! Pound flat again on anvil try the Self Tapping engine tinn screw first !
  Then if it start's to chew resort to the tapp ! Often it will just take the screw , and therefore eliminate's the loss of meat associated with cuttin new thread's with the tapp !
  Use a New self tapping screw ya cheap ------- Lmao Not that Old chewed up screw oil caked screw !
  See Not so trivial there indeed  Book !
  The rear screw hole that hold's the Deck Lidd bracket's the screw hole in the car back against the firewall !
  Only advice I can Give, to these is dont screw them up !!! LMAO , Then tear's , Then eeeerily LMAO again !
                                          Sean

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This is something that I noticed on a few of the Beetles I have disassembled over the years. I just thought they had been replaced with some from a red Beetle.

After the third or so set, I wondered the same. Why?

Dennis C~

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Hiya Sean,

Sean's wrote:

Just 2 different car's

I'm pretty sure at this point that it is not a case just two different cars.  This car, when it came into my hands, was just about pristine under the body (the fenders and outer body had seen their share of parking lot dings and dents).  Further, take a look at Old's reply.  That would tend to confirm that red headed bolts were used (for some reason - at some point in VW production) in attaching the decklid.

Mike

1970 AS Bug
1970 Bus - The Ruptured Duck

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Could Be Book ?/ Hell I dont Know but can tell you that V.W.'s that actually runn !!
  Are one's that somebody took the Time to Pay close Attention to Detail !
  Got any Ideas why or exactly where they were used ! Might be they signal the one's you install first or tighten down first to adjust Deck Lidd or Install it !
  Kind of Art to installin Deck Lidd's with out scratchin the Car ?? Definately a Skill to it !
  As in DONT TOUCH IT ! I got it ! No I dont need you to hold it ! Ive Got it ! LMAO
                          Sean

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You guys are reading way too much into this.  There isn't a manufacturing co anywhere that would waste their time painting such insignificant screws for absolutely no reason.
Every original paint car I've seen had all 4 screws painted body colour.
Mechanics remove deck lids all the time.  Like if they want to swap out the oil cooler without pulling the engine.  Screws get lost and replaced all the time.  So much that my local dealer actually has a charge on every invoice for misc screws

Last edited by Bruce (2009-05-01 19:56:13)

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So then it doesnt really matter if I install nut's with the stamped machinist torque value marking's up ?
  Cause I just cant do it !
  I see a nut upside down ?? Gotta remove it and turn the proof mark's up !
  Just how it is ! Cant step on a Crack in the side walk etc. LMAO
                                              Sean

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Hiya Frank,

Miss your morning cup of coffee?

Mike

1970 AS Bug
1970 Bus - The Ruptured Duck