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So, I think I messed up. I bought a new engle 110 cam, and an aluminum flat 3 bolt gear to mate with it.
Problem is, my previous cam was dished... is the old oil pump going to rub against the cam if its not dished??
help!
update: i think i figured it out.... any opinions?
http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?P … 115-107-AK
Last edited by thebignic (2009-04-15 14:12:35)
Yes it will lock. You need an oil pump mated to cam gear type.
Yeah you gotta runn right camm to the Pump or vice a versa ! Other consideration's here are Pump Stud's and stud depth intoo the case /
Old cases the Stud hole's go all the way thru and newer case's they dont ! Add the different width of pump houseing's between the dished and the Flatt ??
Just kinda lettin you know what to expect ?? Before you slamm the 2 case halve's together ! Might be you need to change the Pump mounting stud's in the case also !
As to gear mounting on the Camm ? Speciallty shoulderd bolt's are used with the Teethed type lock washers <<< Right bolt's are essential here !! 10.8 type shoulderd bolt and red loctite !
The camm Timming Mark and slot and bolt need to line up when mounting the camm .
Also your gonna definately wanna Degree the Camm ! Camm Gear too camm Matte relationship is a source for tolerance stacking !!
Also Im not a real big fann of the Double thrust Cam bearing's ! I use them in some application's but for the most part have gotton away from the practice !
Idea being that once you get the Radiuse Pitch right and the Thrust set right and the Back lash all set in the Oil side of the Case ??
You then add another shell to the cover side ???
This can and will affect Back lash , and thrust !!
Im of the opinion that it is better to have these setting's correct than it is too beef the thrust up and affect them negatively !
Course enough time you could bolt together and tool up a dial indicator to check the setting's with cases bolted together etc.
I like a stock gear on my Camm's of the proper Pitch radiuse !
I prefer the Flat camm due to extra Bolt >> 4 bolt's etc. V.S. 3 !
Check thrust surfaces of both Camm and Bearing's ! I tune with a file if neccessary !
I check Back lash and thrust in this Manner !
I install my Dizzy drive and distributor ! Sett my Crank TDC number 1 etc. Then install the Camm !
Now cause the dizzy and drive are allready installed I can turn the rotor of the Dizzy back and forth and it slides the crank back and forth !
So I will use the rotor to Mimic an Approximation of where the Crank would Ride in it's thrust travel .
Do this by twistin rotor until the crank slides all the way back in it's thrust travel ! Then turning the Dizzy rotor back too move the crank just a smidgen forward ! Mimic- ing a crank thrust setting ! Or close approximation of crank thrust setting ?
This is where you want to take your Camm back lash and thrust reading !
Any question's post again !
P.S. dont get in a hurry ! Patience is Key here ! Play with it a while get comfy go the xtra to get it right !
Sean
P.S. Was botherin me all way up the Mountain and Back !
Often if I get a Tight Camm thrust dont be afraid to set the thrust shell on a peice of emery and do the Figure 8 .
Can take it down a Lil ?? Not a lott !
Now Im gonna be hung up on figure 8's all frikin day !! Wich is why I posted LMAO
Sean
Hey Nic--get your block back yet?
That's it, now I got you figured Sean, 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 !
Ok Smarty wich direction does the Earth rotate Counter Clock wise or Clock wise and wich direction does it orbit the Sun and Tornadoe's and Hurricane's spin ?? universe spins ? Black holes ? Electron's < Neutron's , Proton's , qaurk's , Bozon's , Good stuff !
Wonder where He's at ??
8888888888888 Ahhh the Esssence of Time and Space ! 6 and 9 are Levers of 8 ??
Like Chess ! Gotta be able too picture the Entire Board ! See Check Mate 6 -9 moves of Check mate in 8 moves !
So just how do we tell time ???? Watch 8 !
See there Anthony ! It's crazy 8 !
Bett he's runnin around trying to figure out a Camm Gear ! I prefer stock gear's ! Least for a 1776 . If look's like a Neutral Pitch radiuse By all mean's use the split gear in a new gear !
Sean
Sean--you gotta write a book!
Without an editor!
Like a router, depends on which pole you look from. The rest you can tell us. But figure this, you are stuck in a figure eight and you tell us which way you are going?? Cam gears, uh I leave to Tom the engine builder, he says yeah we'll use this one. I built one engine and that's enough, decided to leave to guys that know what they are doing. One thing for sure since this engine is broken in, it runs great.
Figure 8 your headed in the Direction of Infinity .
Infinity is never ending ?? Essence Of God ??? Shadow of God ???
Yupp Im still doin charity work ! Got a Guy Does the Right thing ! Under some pretty Adverse condition's !
Gonna try to Help him out . See if we cant get a Motor goin Down and dirty ! No $$$
Motor's is Just the Experience of Doin them ! I built lott of V8's back in the Day ?
Thought V.W. Motor wouldnt be a whole lott different ! But you cant rebuild a V.W. motor from a Manual and have it work out Nicely .
Oil Leak's alone would drive a Chevy Mech Nut's !!
Sean
I have no leaks. Not one drop!
Big Nic is hoggin that motor all to himself ! Not sharin or nothin ??
Go figure !
Ehh Rough Day !
They turned a Women Murderer loose 15 year's ??? He will kill again !
And Another one of our Freind's Passed !
Nothin but good New's today !
Old men dieing off ! Makin me feel real old ?? Either that or waitin on Nic to share his Motor is makin me old ?
Again with the Carbon Tax !
Not a Tax generated by Revenue Just a fine a Punishment for are Emmission's ! Not Based on Fair Market value either Just a Tax for Emmitting to much Carbon intoo the air !
Last I checked Govt wasnt suckin dirty air in and kickin clean air out ?
But I hear that they will spend it on Clean Coal Technology ?????? LMAO
We allready have Private enterprise workin on Clean Coal technology Multi mill. or Bill. dollar industry ??
But Im sure the Govt will do a better Job . Hell I was Loadin and Unloadin Fly ash from Edison Plant in Laughlin N.V. when the crew's were in there rebuildin the Scrubber's !
Yupp You been Badd gone over the Limit gotta fine you ! Lett me sniff the air ! Yupp you been really Badd this is Gonna cost you !!
" How Much "
Well just how badd have you been ??? LMAO
Taxation with out Representation !
Maybe I wont live to see my children go Hungry or Fight an unjust War !
My Ole Buddy would have hated this with all his Heart ! Vietnam Vett ! Patriot ! Beleived in the Constitution ! Fought Communism as a young man !
Labeled a Baby Killer , when He came Home !
But I dont think he could have stood this ! God is Mercifull ! Go figure !
So when Soldiers come Home from Afghanistan , and Iraq ??
What are we gonna say !
" Oh by the way ! While you were gone ! we had a communist take over of the Govt . LMAO
Sean
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