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Topic: Help in LA please...stranded1

hi...remember me? susan with the 69 ghia and the cancer? well, i got
rid of the cancer and i still have the ghia, ended up muddleing
thru it all without selling my motor. anyways, i left Oakland
yesterday afternoon in my ghia heading towards Phoenix. I know, long
drive, but
hey...fairly young motor, valves adjusted , etc. It was all going
great,
cruised down I-5 and only saw one CHP, not that i was speeding or
anything. i stopped for about 1/2 hr in La and got gas. when u got
up on the freeway, I noticed an odd burning smell (like oil) and
then all of a sudden a really loud clunk/squeel/scrape sound and the
motor died. I coasted off the freeway just barely wide enough to fit
and tried to turn it over (same noise again and the motor died).
This combination of sounds do not compliment each other at all. well
, it was 4 am and i really didnt even know where i was, so i called
AAA for a tow and somehow
got lost in the shuffle and sat for 2 1/2 hrs on the freeway only to
be towed and dropped off in a little place called El Monte. Not
somewhere that I could leave my car parked without someone watching
it. During my day sitting in the hot sun trying to decide how to
proceed I took the bails off and rotated the motor cc with the fan
belt to check the valves and everything seems to be fine, although i
did notice a small amount of what looks like brass shavings in the
valve cover on the passenger side.
i also checked to see if there was any in/out play in the crankshaft
at the degree pulley (nothing to speak of) Not quite sure if i
really ruled out much, but i know that the valves are where they are
supposed to be and the fan is not involved. I was finally rescued by
a friend of a friend with a ghia bar and was towed to
torrance/wilmington. My guess is that its the flywheel that somehow
has come loose. I realize now that i could check it by pulling off
the started motor.
i am at best western with my broken ghia in the lot. If any of you
live in the area and could give me a hint on where to start...OF
COURSE, I'm
low budget, it would be appreciated. I thought about pulling the
motor and after removing the passenger seat put it in the car and
buying a 200 wish motor and wish my way back to Oaklant.
Any ideas on further diagnosticks and anyone have a motor cheap or a
loaner?
myfastghia@aol.com
602-637-3607
or 510-258-6559 (only works in the bay area)

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Re: Help in LA please...stranded1

Susan: Good to hear from you again if not under the best of
circumstances. "Brass" in the valve area sounds like you lost a
valve guide (bronze) and probably a valve. The engine will likely
need to be pulled (and probably torn down) to do a complete
evaluation, but if you can turn it manually, it doesn't sound like
you seized it. What oil level did you see after the car quit
running? Did you see any runaway oil leaks? I know that there are a
bunch of good folks in the Los Angeles area that visit this site.
Hopefully one of them will get in touch with you. Unfortunately, it
sounds like another rebuild may be in order. Any warranty on the
engine? Give the builder a call and see what they will do for you.
Keep us posted. Clancy


susan wrote:
>
> hi...remember me? susan with the 69 ghia and the cancer? well, i got
> rid of the cancer and i still have the ghia, ended up muddleing
> thru it all without selling my motor. anyways, i left Oakland
> yesterday afternoon in my ghia heading towards Phoenix. I know, long
> drive, but
> hey...fairly young motor, valves adjusted , etc. It was all going
> great,
> cruised down I-5 and only saw one CHP, not that i was speeding or
> anything. i stopped for about 1/2 hr in La and got gas. when u got
> up on the freeway, I noticed an odd burning smell (like oil) and
> then all of a sudden a really loud clunk/squeel/scrape sound and the
> motor died. I coasted off the freeway just barely wide enough to fit
> and tried to turn it over (same noise again and the motor died).
> This combination of sounds do not compliment each other at all. well
> , it was 4 am and i really didnt even know where i was, so i called
> AAA for a tow and somehow
> got lost in the shuffle and sat for 2 1/2 hrs on the freeway only to
> be towed and dropped off in a little place called El Monte. Not
> somewhere that I could leave my car parked without someone watching
> it. During my day sitting in the hot sun trying to decide how to
> proceed I took the bails off and rotated the motor cc with the fan
> belt to check the valves and everything seems to be fine, although i
> did notice a small amount of what looks like brass shavings in the
> valve cover on the passenger side.
> i also checked to see if there was any in/out play in the crankshaft
> at the degree pulley (nothing to speak of) Not quite sure if i
> really ruled out much, but i know that the valves are where they are
> supposed to be and the fan is not involved. I was finally rescued by
> a friend of a friend with a ghia bar and was towed to
> torrance/wilmington. My guess is that its the flywheel that somehow
> has come loose. I realize now that i could check it by pulling off
> the started motor.
> i am at best western with my broken ghia in the lot. If any of you
> live in the area and could give me a hint on where to start...OF
> COURSE, I'm
> low budget, it would be appreciated. I thought about pulling the
> motor and after removing the passenger seat put it in the car and
> buying a 200 wish motor and wish my way back to Oaklant.
> Any ideas on further diagnosticks and anyone have a motor cheap or a
> loaner?
> myfastghia@aol.com
> 602-637-3607
> or 510-258-6559 (only works in the bay area)
>
>

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Re: Help in LA please...stranded1

Clancy wrote:
>
> Susan: Good to hear from you again if not under the best of
> circumstances. "Brass" in the valve area sounds like you lost a
> valve guide (bronze) and probably a valve. The engine will likely
> need to be pulled (and probably torn down) to do a complete
> evaluation, but if you can turn it manually, it doesn't sound like
> you seized it. What oil level did you see after the car quit
> running? Did you see any runaway oil leaks? I know that there are a
> bunch of good folks in the Los Angeles area that visit this site.
> Hopefully one of them will get in touch with you. Unfortunately, it
> sounds like another rebuild may be in order. Any warranty on the
> engine? Give the builder a call and see what they will do for you.
> Keep us posted. Clancy
>
>
> susan wrote:
>>
>> hi...remember me? susan with the 69 ghia and the cancer? well, i got
>> rid of the cancer and i still have the ghia, ended up muddleing
>> thru it all without selling my motor. anyways, i left Oakland
>> yesterday afternoon in my ghia heading towards Phoenix. I know, long
>> drive, but
>> hey...fairly young motor, valves adjusted , etc. It was all going
>> great,
>> cruised down I-5 and only saw one CHP, not that i was speeding or
>> anything. i stopped for about 1/2 hr in La and got gas. when u got
>> up on the freeway, I noticed an odd burning smell (like oil) and
>> then all of a sudden a really loud clunk/squeel/scrape sound and the
>> motor died. I coasted off the freeway just barely wide enough to fit
>> and tried to turn it over (same noise again and the motor died).
>> This combination of sounds do not compliment each other at all. well
>> , it was 4 am and i really didnt even know where i was, so i called
>> AAA for a tow and somehow
>> got lost in the shuffle and sat for 2 1/2 hrs on the freeway only to
>> be towed and dropped off in a little place called El Monte. Not
>> somewhere that I could leave my car parked without someone watching
>> it. During my day sitting in the hot sun trying to decide how to
>> proceed I took the bails off and rotated the motor cc with the fan
>> belt to check the valves and everything seems to be fine, although i
>> did notice a small amount of what looks like brass shavings in the
>> valve cover on the passenger side.
>> i also checked to see if there was any in/out play in the crankshaft
>> at the degree pulley (nothing to speak of) Not quite sure if i
>> really ruled out much, but i know that the valves are where they are
>> supposed to be and the fan is not involved. I was finally rescued by
>> a friend of a friend with a ghia bar and was towed to
>> torrance/wilmington. My guess is that its the flywheel that somehow
>> has come loose. I realize now that i could check it by pulling off
>> the started motor.
>> i am at best western with my broken ghia in the lot. If any of you
>> live in the area and could give me a hint on where to start...OF
>> COURSE, I'm
>> low budget, it would be appreciated. I thought about pulling the
>> motor and after removing the passenger seat put it in the car and
>> buying a 200 wish motor and wish my way back to Oaklant.
>> Any ideas on further diagnosticks and anyone have a motor cheap or a
>> loaner?
>> myfastghia@aol.com
>> 602-637-3607
>> or 510-258-6559 (only works in the bay area)
>>
>>
>
>
Thanks for the response clancy. I'm not really worried about the
warranty issue. The motor was built by an independent mechanic and I
purchased all of the components new to build it with. I did look at

the valve assemblies alittle yesterday and didnt see anything. What
should i look for? If it is going to need a rebuild I think I should
take it home to Oakland to have it done, so I'm going to need an
engine to put in the car to get it home. I got some rest and feel
better about everything today. Thanks again. Should I take the
starter off and
check the flywheel?

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Re: Help in LA please...stranded1

Susan,
You are fortunate that you are near one of the best (and most
reasonable) air-cooled VW repair shops found anywhere. Please give
Steve at Serrano's a call at (310) 533-8273. Tell Steve that Grant
sent you. Serrano's is located at 20938 S. Normandie Ave. in
Torrance (one block south of Torrance Blvd.).
-Grant

susan wrote:
>
> hi...remember me? susan with the 69 ghia and the cancer? well, i got
> rid of the cancer and i still have the ghia, ended up muddleing
> thru it all without selling my motor. anyways, i left Oakland
> yesterday afternoon in my ghia heading towards Phoenix. I know, long
> drive, but
> hey...fairly young motor, valves adjusted , etc. It was all going
> great,
> cruised down I-5 and only saw one CHP, not that i was speeding or
> anything. i stopped for about 1/2 hr in La and got gas. when u got
> up on the freeway, I noticed an odd burning smell (like oil) and
> then all of a sudden a really loud clunk/squeel/scrape sound and the
> motor died. I coasted off the freeway just barely wide enough to fit
> and tried to turn it over (same noise again and the motor died).
> This combination of sounds do not compliment each other at all. well
> , it was 4 am and i really didnt even know where i was, so i called
> AAA for a tow and somehow
> got lost in the shuffle and sat for 2 1/2 hrs on the freeway only to
> be towed and dropped off in a little place called El Monte. Not
> somewhere that I could leave my car parked without someone watching
> it. During my day sitting in the hot sun trying to decide how to
> proceed I took the bails off and rotated the motor cc with the fan
> belt to check the valves and everything seems to be fine, although i
> did notice a small amount of what looks like brass shavings in the
> valve cover on the passenger side.
> i also checked to see if there was any in/out play in the crankshaft
> at the degree pulley (nothing to speak of) Not quite sure if i
> really ruled out much, but i know that the valves are where they are
> supposed to be and the fan is not involved. I was finally rescued by
> a friend of a friend with a ghia bar and was towed to
> torrance/wilmington. My guess is that its the flywheel that somehow
> has come loose. I realize now that i could check it by pulling off
> the started motor.
> i am at best western with my broken ghia in the lot. If any of you
> live in the area and could give me a hint on where to start...OF
> COURSE, I'm
> low budget, it would be appreciated. I thought about pulling the
> motor and after removing the passenger seat put it in the car and
> buying a 200 wish motor and wish my way back to Oaklant.
> Any ideas on further diagnosticks and anyone have a motor cheap or a
> loaner?
> myfastghia@aol.com
> 602-637-3607
> or 510-258-6559 (only works in the bay area)
>
>

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Re: Help in LA please...stranded1

Another option is to rent a dolly and truck from U-Haul or similar
and tow her back to Oakland. Check several stores. Rates can vary
wildly, even within the same company.

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Re: Help in LA please...stranded1

Steve Regalado wrote:
>
> Another option is to rent a dolly and truck from U-Haul or similar
> and tow her back to Oakland. Check several stores. Rates can vary
> wildly, even within the same company.
>
well guys.....the crank is busted just like i thought at first when
it happened. so......I need a motor to get my car home. Anyone have
a stock motor that i can buy for about 300 to get me and my 1776
back
to Oakland. I'm just sick about this, dont understand how it could
have
happened. Only 3000 miles on a motor built from all new parts EXCEPT
the
crank. Thanks to Grant for turning me onto Steve at Serranos, he's
real nice and knowledgeable.