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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading this and it sounds almost like the problem I had with the 70 I bought for my father inlaw . The person I bought it from said he down shifted and it would not go into any gear and he was told by a shop it needed a new trans . I bought it and was going to put the body on a standard pan. when I was playing with it it made the servo work but no luck putting it into gear so I was going to go ahead and&nbsp; pull the body pulled the rear seat to get to the body bolts removed the cover over the shift coupler and there it was..the shift coupler had come loose on the front of the trans . tightened it and it is still working fine a year latter anyway maybe yours could be this simple . hope this helps</p><p>&nbsp; J.R.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[J.R.]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-09-01T06:26:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like a vacuum leak to me.&nbsp; I have been rebuilding a 72 and was told by a club member to check the clutch servo by pulling the vaacum line off, pushing in the rod by hand and then putting my finger over the tube the line attaches to.&nbsp; This makes the rod stay in if the diaphram is good.&nbsp; It worked for me, and mine works now that I have it running.&nbsp; If it is bad then CIP1 has a kit to fix it for $29.95.&nbsp; &nbsp;If it is good, look for leaks in the lines or in the cannister under the fender.</p><p>Emmett</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etwood3]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-08-24T16:08:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely Mike,</p><p>I was beginning to think you had given up on me!&nbsp; I would love to get some instructions!&nbsp; Thanks</p><p>Darren</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadPiper]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-08-08T04:48:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Darren,</p><p>Sorry that I have not replied earlier, but I have been &quot;out of the building&quot; on a little jaunt to Central Oregon.&nbsp; Vacation time and all..........</p><p>Do you still need/ want the instruction for the clutch servo adjust?</p><p>Mike</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bookwus]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.volkswebbin.net/user/42/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-07-28T02:50:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering if you guys are still out there?</p><p>Darren</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadPiper]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-22T14:23:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I have not replied earlier, I had not realized the topic spanned two pages.&nbsp; I sure would like those instructions on adjusting the clutch servo.&nbsp; I would love to give it a try.&nbsp; I assume I want that rod to be able to travle farther into the unit?&nbsp; Thanks</p><p>Darren</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadPiper]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-17T14:00:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It should not travel out as long as your hand is on the shifter. I&#039;d say your next step would be to test the servo, lines, and vacuum tank and make sure they hold a vacuum. Sounds like something in that system may have a slow leak.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JordanK]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.volkswebbin.net/user/17/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-07-15T22:24:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Darren,</p><p>The slamming into gear is a very common problem with AutoSticks.&nbsp; Basically it has to do with three separate factors, control valve setting, servo/clutch arm adjustment, and idle speed.&nbsp; All three need to be &quot;in synch&quot; for the clutch to shift smoothly.&nbsp; The clutch arm adjustment (although a bit of a pain to get to) is pretty easy and setting the idle speed is not all that complicated.&nbsp; However, most control valves have lost their ability to graduate the amount of vacuum is applied to the servo.&nbsp; They are pretty much in an off and on mode due to the fact that their internals are worn.&nbsp; To complicate matters, there are no rebuild kits for control valves any more.&nbsp; So...............the best you can do for the slammin shifts is to set the clutch arm adjustment and the idle speed per manual standards and monkey around with the control valve adjust screw, hoping to find a sweet spot.</p><p>Your most recent observation of the servo in action tends to suggest that it is working.&nbsp; That would also mean that everything upstream (the control valve, the shifter, and the vacuum lines and their connections) are working.&nbsp; Question is whether or not they are working as designed - as in giving 100%.&nbsp; As I mentioned last time, if they are, then you are looking at problems inside the bellhousing.&nbsp; Not a happy prospect.</p><p>So....before looking at tearing into the bellhousing it would be a good idea to try adjusting that servo/clutch arm we already talked about.&nbsp; If it is possible to, in effect, shorten that clutch arm by moving the adjusting nut/sleeve, it may be possible to restore the shifting action.&nbsp; Let me know what you want to do - I can give you the step-by-step for doing an adjust on the clutch arm if you like.</p><p>Mike</p><p>1970 AS Bug</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bookwus]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-15T19:38:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I checked the clutch servo again while depressing the lever when the vehicle was running.&nbsp; The rod goes in a bit and then travels back out a bit.&nbsp; What does this mean?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadPiper]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-15T17:28:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here is some other info that may or may not be relavent.&nbsp; Sometimes when I used to shift it into gear it would slam into gear.&nbsp; Othertimes, it would go in nicely as expected.&nbsp; This was an intermittent problem.&nbsp; I had called a guy in a city three hours from us that restored VW&#039;s to ask him what it could be and he said it was idle speed.&nbsp; I adjuste that but it did not make a difference.&nbsp; Could this previous problem be suggesting that something is wrong with the tranny?&nbsp; I still have not repeated the volateg tests but I will today.</p><p>Darren</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadPiper]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-15T16:36:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Darren,</p><p>That the servo (arm) moved, in itself, is a good thing.&nbsp; It indicates that the electrical system is doing its job and operating the control valve (which, in turn, operates the clutch servo).&nbsp; </p><p>But let&#039;s hope that Jordan is correct and the actual problem is an easy one to fix.&nbsp; You see, if the clutch servo is intact and fully operating the clutch arm, then your problem is located inside the bellhousing.&nbsp; That means an engine drop.</p><p>Mike</p><p>1970 AS Bug</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bookwus]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.volkswebbin.net/user/42/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-07-14T04:12:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The arm of the servo is supposed to move, that&#039;s what disengages the clutch. If the whole servo was moving, that&#039;s a problem. The arm is threaded, and this is how you make up for wear in the clutch plate, just like adjusting the clutch cable on a standard bug. Given your condition I&#039;d be inclined to think it&#039;s something clutch related, such as a torn diaphragm in the servo or small hole in the vacuum tank, something like that...However, It&#039;s been a while since I had an AS, and you&#039;re in very capable hands with Bookwus directing you, so I&#039;ll leave him to it. Let us know how it turns out.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JordanK]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.volkswebbin.net/user/17/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-07-13T22:12:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OK,</p><p>I will run the multimeter tests again just to make sure.&nbsp; I really appreciate the help as I am also learning as I go so I don&#039;t mind the long road.</p><p>Here is some additional information.&nbsp; I started the Beetle and got Paula to depress the shifter while I was watching the servo underneath.&nbsp; The servo moved when the shifter was depressed.&nbsp; What does this mean and is it a good thing?</p><p>Darren</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadPiper]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.volkswebbin.net/user/1126/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-07-13T19:59:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Darren,</p><p>OK.....................on we go...............</p><p>We have some potentially conflicting information.&nbsp; The click you hear when Paula depressed the shift lever and the 0.00 reading could be at odds.&nbsp; Possibly not.&nbsp; </p><p>Here&#039;s the scoop..............your solenoid is always &quot;hot&quot; as long as the ignition key is switched on.&nbsp; What actually makes it work is the completion of the ground so the juice flows from the coil attachment point through the solenoid, pops out the shaft, and continues along to the ground.&nbsp; That ground is inside the shift lever.&nbsp; When the driver presses down to shift, a contact is made inside the shift lever so the circuit is completed.</p><p>Given that, you should not get a reading of 0.00 and hear a click in the solenoid.&nbsp; You could hear a click if the circuit were being completed, or should not hear a click if the circuit were not being completed.&nbsp; That make sense so far?</p><p>Notice that I previously mentioned, &quot;Possibly not&quot;?&nbsp; It is possible that you are getting juice to your solenoid, and hearing a click, but the durn thing is not working.&nbsp; I have seen a couple of solenoids with broken posts or posts which will not fully extend.</p><p>So Darren, I&#039;d do this to be sure.&nbsp; Pull the solenoid off the control valve and, as I mentioned in an earlier post, test it with a couple of leads to a good battery.&nbsp; That little center post should, if the beast is working properly, pop right out.&nbsp; If it does then we need to look at the shift lever, the back-seat contact point, and the condition of that ground wire.</p><p>And please keep in mind (I know this is a long process and there&#039;s a bunch of footwork involved) that your actual problem may NOT be in the electrical support system for your AutoStick.&nbsp; It&#039;s just the most likely place to start looking given your symptoms.</p><p>Mike</p><p>1970 AS Bug</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Bookwus]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.volkswebbin.net/user/42/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2005-07-13T17:38:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trouble with my 1968 Semi Automatic Transmission]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OK, </p><p>I made a typing mistake...It was red probe to right contact (when looking at engine from rear it is closest to the engine, black wire in my picture) and black probe to the left contact (furthest from the engine when looking at the engine from the rear, the red wire in my picture).&nbsp; When I redid this test I had the key in the power position.&nbsp; Paula depressed the shifter and I hear something click in the solenoid.&nbsp; It gives me a reading of 0 Volts when the shifter is depressed.&nbsp; So if this is the case, I am assuming that the solenoid is potentially OK and the problem lies in the shifter and that has to do with the switched ground?&nbsp; </p><p>OK, assuming this is the next step...I am ready for your instructions.&nbsp; You are a godsend.&nbsp; You are making this really easy for me.&nbsp; When we are done you should edit this for a tech article.</p><p>Darren</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadPiper]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-07-13T04:03:13Z</updated>
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